Challenge/question for "No Man Knows the Day or Hour"
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You mentioned Acts 1:6-8 as proving that no-one knew the day or the hour. However, the point that I was trying to make in my article was that it was not at the time of the Ascension, but only near the close of the first century (when the Jewish response across the Roman empire had been made), that the Father revealed to Jesus the ultimate outcome and timing of these end events. He then gave it to John to document for us in the book of Revelation.. At the time He ascended into heaven, these matters were not yet determined as the Jewish response had not been made.
As far as the Greek is concerned, I checked my source, "The Sacred Scriptures, The Concordant Version" with its Greek and English interlinear. I did this with your comments in mind, and there is no question that the translation team included the "yet" in the translation on the basis of the Greek. So I went further to try and decipher what they had done. The word used in Matthew 24:36 is usually given as OUDEIS as in Strongs 3762. The Greek text the Concordant team are using is claimed to be a copy of the original as it was all in capitals with no spacing between the words. What they have done is to take the EIS and translate it as "one" which is legitimate and the OUD as "not yet".
I did a cross check in several other instances and this approach has been used consistently throughout this version. So I looked up John 7:8 and 7:9 where the "not yet" is specifically given in most other translations. There the "not yet" is OUPO (Strongs 3768) and is translated by the Concordant version as "not as yet". I could go on, but apparently the translation team are taking the OUD as a form of OUP and consistently translating OUD as "not yet" throughout their version. The EIS ending is then taken as meaning "one" and is not being applied to make the word OUDEIS as "not even".
The legitimacy of this procedure is hard to gauge as the continuous text they are using can legitimately be split up that way. The usual texts we have, split up the words in advance for us, but that process may be a matter of tradition rather than what was originally intended. However, I put all that aside for the moment, because you seem to be missing one key point in the article on our website.
You seem to be assuming that the coincident dates obtained from the Blood Moons and the building of the Wall of Jerusalem refers specifically to the Rapture. As a result you claim that I am in error since, if Satan knew the time, he would do everything to stop it. Please note that I personally do not believe that these dates refer to the Rapture. In fact I went to the trouble to point out that a variety of options exist as to the meaning of the dates given in this time range. Let me reiterate that they could refer to a Mid-East war that either involved Israel or had consequences that affected Israel. One such war is mentioned in Isaiah 17 and associate passages in Amos 1, Zechariah 9, Zephaniah 2 etc. Another possibility in view of events in The Ukraine and nearby areas, might be Ezekiel 38. Some even suggest Psalm 83. There is also the possibility of the appearance of Elijah, who should appear before the Tribulation begins in accord with Malachi 4. The Jews are waiting for this event every Passover, but it need not occur then.
Then I mention what I consider the most likely possibility, namely the rise of Antichrist. In the context of Daniel 8 and 11. These chapters indicate that Antichrist comes from the land controlled by the Seleucid Empire which had Turkey, Iraq and Syria as its main territory after the death of Alexander the Great. Events in Turkey seem to indicate that such an event is very close. The 10 nation Mediterranean Union has Turkey as its backbone. Turkey has the second largest army in NATO next to the USA. The Prime Minister of Turkey, Mr Erdogan, has controlled the Muslim Brotherhood throughout the Mid-East and overthrown 3 of the rulers who were initially in the Mediterranean Union. He is also supporting the ISIS group (currently rampaging through Syria and Iraq) financially and militarily. He controls the water supply to both those countries by the dams on the Euphrates and Tigris in Turkey and has assisted in the outcome of the ISIS invasion by cutting the supply of water to those countries.
He is changing Turkey to a Presidential system of government and the first President will be elected in August this year. At the moment, Erdogan is the only candidate standing for election to that position. He will be in power as president for 9 years. He could then make a 7 year covenant with Israel. As Prime Minister he could not as he only had 4 year terms in office. If his party gains power again in the 2015 elections, Erdogan will have complete control of Turkey, the army, and basically the Mediterranean Union. His election as President in August and the return of his party to power in 2015 covers the exact time base for both the Blood Moons and the Wall of Jerusalem data.
In view of this, it is not correct to state that I am setting a date for the Rapture. There are a number of other key options which hold equal priority. The Rapture could occur any time, even tonight. However, Erdogan's Presidential election is fixed as are the party elections next year.
I hope this clarifies the whole situation for you.
You state that the Greek scholarship of the Concordant translators is "utterly appalling" because it totally ignores the accents and breathings above or associated with the Greek letters. These marks, as you rightly point out, allow a difference to be made between words of the same spelling.
It is here that your misunderstanding of what was in the original Greek manuscripts of the New Testament becomes evident. These manuscripts had all capital letters with no spacing between words and were unaccented and unaspirated. Furthermore, some commonly used words were abbreviated. So the Concordant text, with its Greek all in capitals, with nospacing and unaccented and unaspirated is exactly what we have the original manuscripts. Without these additional features, the Concordant translation is in fact excellent scholarship. It points to the fact that some of our translations have been done on the basis of tradition rather than following all possibilities for the original Greek text. What they have done is, under these circumstances, an excellent translation. These facts about the original Greek manuscripts are emphasized in the following quote about all the original Greek texts used for the New Testament:
That comment can be found in an article entitled "The Transmission of the Greek New Testament" found here.
The rationale behind your criticism may also have become apparent when you state that you are a Post-Tribulation believer. My only response to that is to quote the Lord Jesus who, in Luke 21 was talking about the Tribulation and the Rapture in verses 34-36 when He said: "That day [the Tribulation] will come on you unexpectedly. For as a snare it will come on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand [instead] before the Son of Man." That, to my mind, indicates the Rapture occurs before the Tribulation. There are other passages like it in Revelation 3:10 etc. But I expect that you have taken them into account in coming to your position.